Bargaining your way ‘up’

It strikes me that many people are very polite. Most people I meet are quick to cooperate, help out and be kind to each other.

This is no different on board. People are helpful, patient and understanding towards their fellow passengers, and to me and my colleagues. Only now and then does someone get impatient (which could be for a good reason) and only very rarely does someone become rude. Actually, I find that rather amazing: all these different people sitting in the space of a few square metres high in the sky, getting along so well.

But once in a while it occurs to me that the humble ones sometimes suffer at the expense of the bold ones. Take a flight that’s not completely full, for example. Quite a lot of people stay in their original seat even when they’re allowed to change seats after take-off. Only a few people notice and occupy the empty seats. Some of them even stretch out on three or four seats, not bothering about mothers with babies on their laps or others that might be more comfortable with a little more space.

Other passengers use bargaining techniques to get what they want. Like the lady who asked for a free upgrade on a flight to Bonaire. She maintained that she always got upgraded on her flights to the island; this would be the first time she wouldn’t sit upstairs! It would have been easy to call her bluff by explaining that flights to Bonaire have always been flown with an MD-11, an aircraft with only one deck, thus making it impossible for her to have sat ‘upstairs’. But of course I didn’t.

‘Always’ and ‘never’ often come up in discussions. “I am always allowed to take three (big!!) bags into the cabin”. “I have never been asked before to remove my luggage from in front of an emergency exit!”  “You guys always let me smoke in the lavatory!”

bargainIn those cases I usually explain the rules and leave it at that, since I know everyone drives a hard bargain now and then. I’ve done it myself in markets for example: “I always get that product for less than half of that price!” While I’d never actually bought that particular item before…

I guess overstating the case is sometimes just a part of human nature.

Caroline

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Mark

Of course, if KLM chose to offer occasional upgrades to Gold / Plat elites, people wouldn’t have to ask in the first place!

(Although it certainly doesn’t excuse the behaviour of the customer in question).

Mark

Of course, if KLM chose to offer occasional upgrades to Gold / Plat elites, people wouldn’t have to ask in the first place!

(Although it certainly doesn’t excuse the behaviour of the customer in question).

Pm_1980

sometimes I also feel that the loudest and the most obnoxious get their way, while the nicer people are often expected to co-operate. 

Pm_1980

sometimes I also feel that the loudest and the most obnoxious get their way, while the nicer people are often expected to co-operate. 

Celtic Mom

I found, while working in an upmarket book store, that the nastier customers always got the best service because nobody wanted to be on the receiving end of their anger. This used to really annoy me because it worked the other way too! If there was only one book avaliable and two customers, my inclination would be to make the nasty one wait but my colleagues never saw it that way!

Celtic Mom

I found, while working in an upmarket book store, that the nastier customers always got the best service because nobody wanted to be on the receiving end of their anger. This used to really annoy me because it worked the other way too! If there was only one book avaliable and two customers, my inclination would be to make the nasty one wait but my colleagues never saw it that way!

The Silver Shadow

Flown many times and saw the inevitable bargainer who wanted to get into business or first. I’m not the type to be bargaining when it comes to flying since I’m used to the ‘hierarchy of flying’ but I usually to my best to get an exit row or bulkhead seat.

One of my favourite bargainers that I happened to overhear was a middle-aged gentleman flying in economy who wanted an upgrade and specifically pointed towards me and said “but that young person is flying business class.”Just for the record, I was flying in Economy comfort…

The Silver Shadow

Flown many times and saw the inevitable bargainer who wanted to get into business or first. I’m not the type to be bargaining when it comes to flying since I’m used to the ‘hierarchy of flying’ but I usually to my best to get an exit row or bulkhead seat.

One of my favourite bargainers that I happened to overhear was a middle-aged gentleman flying in economy who wanted an upgrade and specifically pointed towards me and said “but that young person is flying business class.”Just for the record, I was flying in Economy comfort…

Lady Zaza

In my opinion it is the responsibility of the cabin crew to ensure that customers who might need extra space get to use a spare seat rather than letting a rude person lie across four seats! And for those who always get upgraded? I’ve flown countless times and never once had an upgrade, so what are we saying here? Lying and bullshitting works when wanting an upgrade? I respect myself too much for that

Lady Zaza

In my opinion it is the responsibility of the cabin crew to ensure that customers who might need extra space get to use a spare seat rather than letting a rude person lie across four seats! And for those who always get upgraded? I’ve flown countless times and never once had an upgrade, so what are we saying here? Lying and bullshitting works when wanting an upgrade? I respect myself too much for that

Silvana62

I always have to pay for my business seat, why others get it free?

HWSC

I’m travelling both in eco and business and I’m a Gold member now (missed only 2 flights last year :-( ) and it amazes me everytime I fly, and I fly very frequent, that KLM cabin crewpractise their own “upgrade” guidelines…., friend, families and those who look nice are bumped up to business at no extra cost while the flight is in operation. No reason, as eco still has open seats…!!?? and passengers in business have paid for their seat. Can KLM stop this cabin behavior, as this random and irritating upgrading is really annoying to those who pay!! When you speak to the cabin crew about this, they say sorry but still allow people to go to business. Fair? NO! Time to look at your policies KLM!! Cre this behaviour drives loyal passengers to other airlines….

Silvana62

I always have to pay for my business seat, why others get it free?

HWSC

I’m travelling both in eco and business and I’m a Gold member now (missed only 2 flights last year :-( ) and it amazes me everytime I fly, and I fly very frequent, that KLM cabin crewpractise their own “upgrade” guidelines…., friend, families and those who look nice are bumped up to business at no extra cost while the flight is in operation. No reason, as eco still has open seats…!!?? and passengers in business have paid for their seat. Can KLM stop this cabin behavior, as this random and irritating upgrading is really annoying to those who pay!! When you speak to the cabin crew about this, they say sorry but still allow people to go to business. Fair? NO! Time to look at your policies KLM!! Cre this behaviour drives loyal passengers to other airlines….

Duan_mlk

KLM is the cheapest airlines. Love ’em

Duan_mlk

KLM is the cheapest airlines. Love ’em

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